Nov 17, 2011 #15 Well, frankly, I have never seen a full-offset neck like yours, but I was hoping I could help. Once that's done, I do the touchup with the same needle files that I mentioned above. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. It really is a stunning piece of work - the pics don't. Some strat necks have a little fretboard overhang with an extra fret that goes over the body a little bit. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The. 0345, and our neck thickness is an assumed . For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. So I opted for a new neck instead of a regretting. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. Nov 14, 2018 #6 I've done a number of conversion necks with zero issues. You first need to unglue the upper part of the fretboard that hangs out onto the soundboard by the soundhole. Having that much room between the neck pocket and the. Dec 25, 2020. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. This is from a 2000-2001 catalog. This was an extra $110 for the ebony and squared fretboard. 720". Jun 13, 2020 #18 Slot and drill/install fret markers Radius sand taper (sometimes I taper first)The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. There also are rippled areas along the fretboard edges where they meet the top, on my single-cut and double-cut guitars as well. 720 Mod. Feb 2, 2001. 83" at the first fret , . 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. 060" or . The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. Business, Economics, and Finance. Buy On Amazon. I used a dremel to widen the arc. A G&L neck fills the entire neck pocket. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. The only neck I have here to measure is 1-1/16 thick at the butt end to the top of the fretboard crown. Strat Neck, Rosewood Fretboard 12 Inch Radius,Rollernut,22 Fret Overhang Fretboard. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. 30. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. 750- this gives room for a bit less than 1/8″ underneath the fretboard overhang for a pick guard. M. If you like that position, it might work well. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. Anybody. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. 75". The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. Oct 29, 2008 #3Post some pictures and measurements of the neck near the heel plus the distance from the fretboard side of the nut to the center of the 12th fret. I can see from the pics they definitely have 22 frets. There is no fretboard overhang on this neck. bbarott Most Honored Senior Member. It’s not something everyone can do, like changing pickups or electronics, but a skilled luthier shouldn’t have a problem replacing let’s say a rosewood fingerboard from your Gibson Les Paul guitar. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. My 2004 50th anniversary strat has a gap between the end of the neck abs the pick guard. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. The type of truss rod installed would have an impact, but not where it's adjusted. M. 83" at the first fret , . Somehow the neck shifted in the pocket and I didn't notice it due to the fretboard overhang. I have learned to adapt to 25. 125 I guess my main issue lies with the string spacing at the nut and bridge. So even though I haven't drilled holes yet, this implies my bridge position is set by the template. As on the 22-fret Am Pro jazzmaster, Am Performer, and Player. Up-bow when its unstrung is also a little strange, but its how it plays when strung that matters. The heal pocket measures 3 1/4 by 2 1/4 by 3/4 inches deep. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. - Pickup mounting may not work. . or could just be the. As long as the scale length is 25. Standard 21 Fret. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. iamlowsound. Carefully file the fret ends so they’re flush with the fingerboard edge. Let the tool do the work—you're just guiding it. I understand that you can put some fretboard overhang and add the fret ,,,,,but I would like to add a bit of a twist to my next build. So the fact that your 22-fret neck does not appear to have a headstock truss rod adjustment suggests it's not an overhang neck, and may. Purple Drink finish, with translucent black burst (*special request to have the burst stop at the flat top) 3-piece body layer option. Media. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. While a Gibson Les Paul will generally set you back north of $2,000, their Asia-built Epiphone cousins offer excellent bang for the buck at prices in the low-to-mid hundreds. It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. It's the yellow one. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. 6mm, hench my overhang clearing it, but not by much So all as per ave. Straight Fretboard End. . The neck has been reset to ensure. If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. If this was the only problem, I'd probably just forget about it since it's going to be under the fretboard overhang and I probably won't be able to see it. Details are below so I don't bore you now. Okay so the fretboard thickness is . Includes vintage style tuners as shown. Moving chords around is another good way to get to know the fretboard. Given its age, it's understandable that this guitar has undergone some maintenance over the years. Dec 18, 2014. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. Last edited: Jul 16, 2012. 481” maximum heel width, 3. I. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. 1,649 206. When installing a neck with a fretboard overhang it is critical to ensure the overhang has enough clearance to accommodate your pickguard. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. 1. Nov 30, 2005 Southern Ontario. Fits Tele style bodiesSpecs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang9. Two of the photos show the Wilkinson compensated brass. I'm new to this forum, so you'll have to bear with me if this topic has already been covered (and it probably has). . With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. 5 scale. Hi Does anyone know of any AFTER MARKET manufacturers who make full 21 fret necks? I need a full neck, not a 20 fret neck with a 21st fret overhang. Prefer 22 frets and rosewood on my fretboard, I grew up and learned playing on 25. 0″ thick neck. 736Okay, It dawned on me last night that Matt Sharp (Weezer, the Rentals, solo) is probably my biggest influence. . It's just a fretboard overhang so they could get that 22nd fret on. 83" at the first fret , . I can also clearly see there. Thing is, this neck with it's extra fret doesn't have a fretboard overhang, the heel is deeper. New Orleans, LA. Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. Hi. Should I try to duplicate this, or is it OK to just keep the neck solid all the way to the neck pocket? If I need to keep the overhang, does anyone know what the. I just looked through a bunch of Epiphone Les Paul Special photos and that seems to be standard. CryptoI have an Yngwie Signature Strat (borrowed off a mate XD) Anyway, all I can say is that they are EXTREMELY different to normal frets. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. Keeping the same scale length, the fretboard would need overhang to where the neck pickup is. The neck was somehwere in the region of $250 if I recall, then I had a jet black ebony board and the fretboard overhang is squared off, as opposed to the usual Warmoth where it is rounded. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Compatibility Issues. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Fretboard Radius 10" - 16" Compound Number of Frets 22 Inlay Shape Standard Dots Inlay Material Black Side Dots Black Side Dots Mounting Holes Standard 4-Bolt Neck Heel Shape Strat® Shape. NO overhang 4. Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. 21 inch Fretboard. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. The fretboard overhang is typical on many hollowbody instruments, as it allows more of the top to vibrate. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard. The difference between a flat fretboard and one with contour. Although there are ways of disguising any potential gap that can occur by angled shims in a square pocket - a fretboard overhang, having the neck pickup route right up against the neck pocket (Ibanez do this all the time on their S and RG models), hiding any gap with a. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. So you get a strat with 24 frets that you can actually reach (instead of that annoying fretboard overhang like Warmoth). If the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. What am I missing here? I've never had a problem sliding the PG out from under the overhang on any of my Fenders with a 22 fret neck I do find the neck pickup stops against the neck pickup rout, unless there's a swimming pool rout or it's a SC in a HB rout. The fretboard overhang on the body is normal. If you run into that pickguard issue in the future, you can also trim the underside of the fretboard overhang. Fall Away: Fall away refers to the fretboard extension and building the guitar in such a manner that the fretboard extension's height in relation to the strings is additionally increased from the body joint to the sound hole. I would think the neck pocket should be fine. • Fretboard overhang = 0. Good to know. My 2¢. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. 81" at the first fret , . . Location. Modifications/Repairs: previous neck reset, top patch near bridge, top crack repair treble side next to fretboard overhang. Before I order the neck and end up with a headache in the shop trying to make this work, is this a possibility?I've done this exactly once, Les Paul Custom just like you. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. 1: in Fretfind, there is a variable called "fretboard overhang" that describes how much wider your fretboard/nut is than the outside of your strings. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. 5 radius fretboard approx . This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaFirst of all. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. There's that little 1/8" nick outside of where the neck pocket should be. I'm not sure what's going on with the overhang but I did place the centerline of the fretboard on the centerline of the guitar at the heel block and the center of the truss rod. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. 0″ neck pocket by 3/8″ and end up with a pocket depth of 5/8″. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). 1,313. a 22 fret overhang on a body that originally had a 21 fret neck or vice versa. The customer opted for a 54mm nut, which is a little wider than a standard classical guitar (52mm). Based on 24 frets and the fretboard overhang I am leaning heavily toward an earlier Dean Edge 1 that has been modified with a three way switch instead of V/V/T. Tweedledee. The fretboard/neck/body junction looks terrible. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. This meant a complete redesign of the fretboard dimensions to allow for the proper Fretboard Overhang (distance. So, that gives you . Even. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. This is my first real project, I made an early RG type body (non-AANJ), modeled after my RG750. Do Classical Guitars Have Pick Guard? Photo by – pklonline. high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. The shape and feel of the neck likewise. Flatten Fretboard – Use this option to create a flat, classical style of fretboard. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . Instead of 1/32" gap, it's 3/32". . A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. I. Either, but for 22 frets the neck has to have an overhang to make room for the last fret. - Mounting screws would poke into the control cavity. Fretboards have a certain radius on the surface, and values from 7-20 inches are commonly seen. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. #1 I'm planning on ordering a 24. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. Nut:Hi all, Need some help please. Most necks using hyde glue come off in 30 minutes or so. The fretboard overhang is very rarely completely flush to the body, to allow for some minor neck pocket depth variance and adjustment. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. 30. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. 5mm + 19mm neck thickness = 25. My guard's tort, so it might be a little thicker than a clear one, but I could gig mine w/o screws in it for sure. I far and above prefer 43+mm and 12 inch radius. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. 2. Like this:. 095" so it's not like there's a gaping maw sitting there screaming for attention. 125" in either sides. What I need help with is the nut and bridge measurements. Equal: Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. Joined Jun 4, 2005 Messages 704 Reaction score 712 Location Ventura, CA. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. On the Tele installation was very easy. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. . 5 scale, but shorter 24. Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). Business, Economics, and Finance. Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Tape the paper to the fretboard. Messages 24,425. Compatibility Issues. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. You'd need a body designed for it. We have seen guitars where people bolted the neck on, not realizing the overhang of the fretboard was holding the neck up out of the pocket. Only problem is the neck sits too low in the pocket, not as in terms of the action, but the other way, so the fret board is push right up against the top pick. The Jazz is narrower than the Precision. Also vintage tinted pup covers and volume and tone knobs, string trees and misc screws! Keeping the original pups for the. . As a plus,. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. . I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. A pickguard is . The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. I want to make a 22 fret neck with a tele heal and have a spoke style truss rod. number of strings = 4. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. Business, Economics, and Finance. 069 and at bridge is 2. 5" scale. 2-1/4" (squared) heel, 3/16" fretboard overhang, 1" from heel bottom to fretboard. Eyeball the neck to check for warping. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. Line up the two lines. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. All the rods I use are hotrod truss rods from Stewmac. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. You've read the diagram correctly. Sometimes it is a case of just an overhang for the extra frets, sometimes the heel moved and designed specificially for that neck. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. necessary to add 1 or 2 strings in order to get a low tunning sound character and increasing the number of frets on the fretboard to 30 frets, the more new. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. Here's the only Ebay cheapo that I found that was similar Nov 4, 2023 #29. Fender neck pocket deminsions 3" x 2 3/16" x 5/8" deep. Instead of 1/32" gap, it's 3/32". 25. Haven't been much of a Tele person over the years but find myself wanting one now. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. You can do the metric equivelents. It is in solid working shape and the truss rod works properly. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. 1. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. On the other hand, a newer Heritage Eagle Classic had more like 3/4". The fretboard overhang is very lazy bass building IMO. I do most teles I build with 22 frets. 750" from the base to the underside of the fretboard overhang. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Squier-holic. Fast playing satin finish, comfortable C “modern thin” shape. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. 375, at 24th fret is 2. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Business, Economics, and Finance. have a MIM strat body with a US highway one neck with 22 frets going the 1 humbucker route will i need to shave the pickguard so the neck will fit properly or what?? confusedThe American Professional II Jazz Bass sports smooth rolled fingerboard edges and a Super-Natural satin finish, ensuring that this is one J Bass that you won’t want to put down. #4. IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. You can use a Fender spec neck on it but unless it is a 22 fret with the fretboard overhang you will see a gap at the end between it and the neck pocket. 125" to play with for pickguard clearance. 720 Mod. 5 - 4mm at the 12th fret. If they do, then the Pro probably just has a shorter fretboard. $69. NO overhang 4. Because I wanted to keep the option of a fully hollow version in future, the ABR-1 seemed like a good choice - I like the way they can energise a carved top. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. 2. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang 85K subscribers in the Luthier community. James Collins Guest. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. This bass is great but the action gets quite high above the 10th fret. Keep the guitar on the flat and stable surface. I have needed to do it on a few guitars including my #1 guitar. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. Then proceed to the dovetail joint itself. 83" at the first fret , . Forgot your password? Sign UpThey do 22 fret models with a fretboard overhang, so they’ll work in a standard Fender neck pocket. Plus we will add a heel and drill and tap it to accept a threaded rod that will be tightened against the heel trapping the front side of the box and continue through and ou the back to create a truss that will counteract string. But every picture I can find online shows that there should be more than a couple centimetres of wood after the truss rod. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret.